Changing core issues by peeling away layers of judgment

Frederic revisits earlier guidance about changing the core issues of who we are, asking whether one goes deeper and broader and stops just before there are no more judgments; the Wonders say one can go past that and be rid of all judgments.

They explain that what looks like a single judgment is usually a judgment of a judgment of a judgment, and that peeling away the layers leads to the real core issue; even at what seems to be the core one should go a little deeper and check for further judgment, since ultimately it is judgment that separates one from the All That Is, and getting past all judgment would reveal oneself as part of it.

When Frederic asks whether saying 'we are energy' is itself a judgment, they confirm the mind holds a judgment and a degree of separation around the concept of energy: it is a pleasant mental concept that does not dissolve the judgments and justifications behind daily choices.

If he truly realized he is not merely a mind, an ego personality and a physical body, those choices would be deeper and broader, or he might not make them at all but wait, knowing that in waiting all reveals itself, and so his way of living and expressing would change.