Full consciousness in the conscious mind, meditation, and physical life as a playground

Frederic asks whether a 'fully conscious human' refers to the conscious mind.

The Wonders confirm it does: the conscious mind has moved with the subconscious, and the subconscious has reached a stage where those 38 seconds are much wider, broader and deeper, so the limitation no longer applies.

No one is there yet, though some achieve a near perspective through meditation.

Frederic observes that people he has met who reach such states often return to what he would call normal life because they enjoy it so much.

The Wonders agree, citing René's own statement that he loves being physical: the problems, frustrations, fears, angers and loves are a play field, like a circus where you can try any ride.

René enjoys this life while also wanting to be conscious enough to move between third-dimensional reality and other dimensions and know himself in both.

Anyone who has meditated deeply and reached a degree of command loves to play with life; nobody wishes not to be physical.

The point is not to escape the playground but to know that it is a playground being enjoyed imaginatively, rather than believing that it is real and all there is.